It was also common for someone to be walking down the street, and a car would stop, and a bunch of guys would jump out and beat on him. And I tell you, that was a fuckin fight. We protected women. Then you were on file. Premieres in 64 minutes February 20 at 4:30 PM BRONX GANGS Of The 1960s - FORDHAM BALDIES Dusty Vision TV - DVTV 36.5K subscribers Subscribe 0 1 waiting Premieres Feb 20, 2023 Dusty Vision TV on. First, five guys would go into a club and do a dance routine. I would break into the sweater factory, the clothes factory, the pillow factory I even broke into a coffin factory one day. It wasnt like the guy on the corner was a doctor, the one across the street was a lawyer. But it wasnt like they asked us to. This page is not available in other languages. When we were on Lee Avenue there was this black guy. That was my opportunity. It was just: This is your part of Brooklyn, this is my part of Brooklyn. It got to the point where you couldnt walk outside of a radius of five or ten blocks. We went to Our Lady of Lourdes Grammar School on Aberdeen Street. Now all girls think giving a blowjob is nothing. Any gear you could put on, no matter how hot or cold it was, you went to 42nd and wore your colors proudly. It was just a lucky shot and it went right through this guys arm. John Gotti, too. So it worked both ways. There were six of them and two of us. The Micheal Farmer killing was an incident that happened during the showing of West So a lot of guys ODd. This was found to be a nice touch in the Wanderers movie, but in reality, the Fordham Baldies were named for the bald eagle and had the duck's ass or "D.A." hairstyle later made famous by . One guys father was a hunter, and he went on vacation. It was the fact that they were so cool with us. Eventually, though, it got to where you were lucky to get within a block of each other. Next thing you knew, youd be fighting. Our drug of choice then was heroin. . Then you had all these other little clubs in between. We had like one pistol, and that was for everybody, because every now and then you had a confrontation that would require it. If you made someone look bad, theyd wanna retaliate. You get high. They talked about it, shook hands, and then we were brother clubs. It could more than double in size at that point. We went down one night, had a fight with them, and Ill never forget it: We chased them all the way down Evergreen Avenue, and all of a sudden about 60 or 70 of them came out of a house. Ballistics work being done on Piggys Candy Store. You have it all. Thats the way the neighborhood was. There were real gangsters around too. And of course, you dont let nobody take your colors. Everybody kept their eyes open. Because if you were in the wrong place at the wrong time, you took an ass whupping. Its cheaper than coke, and you get whacked on it. For each institution, films are listed by release date, starting with the most recent. He couldnt show up to collect his rent. Life magazine ran a big story on us. They were on the highway, and the guy said something out the window to his girl, and they went back and forth, then finally pulled off the highway up by Bryant Park. That was it. Everything started out with sweaters. I snorted it, sometimes I shot it, but not often. The rest of them are scattered to the wind. I removed the references to Brooklyn gangs in popular culture - does not make any sense to have them there - this article is not about Brooklyn. And I think using full years instead of century description is better. at a dance between the Lucky Lords and the Counts. But he tires of being a Baldie, and the nail in the coffin, is when all the good members in a drunken stupor, sign up for the US Navy. The Woodside Chiefs, teenage boys, were self funded. Clubs may be doing their dirt, but the people on the block aint bitching because they do good for the block. We ran up there, disassembled a few chimneys, and took some bricks and some bottles. We started saying, Why dont we make patches? And finally we did. We didnt have rules or initiations. When you got caught doing something, they handcuffed you, took you down to the precinct, beat the shit outta ya, then took the information down. FYI, this list is from The College Finder, 2017 edition now available! So wed form a line, walk right down and stop. You push a guy up against a wall with a car, just push him till he hits the wall. I guess some guys, you know, went with them. Third, some more trivia. There was a lot of acrimony between the Red Wings and Puerto Rican gangs from East Harlem like the Dragons and Viceroys. I only see a couple guys from the neighborhood now. One gang, the Fordham Baldies were reputed to shave the heads, and other body parts, of those they caught. Unless you also plan on making an article for the early 20th century, I'd suggest you leave of 'mid'. Dukes, as they were waiting for the "Chaplins" (Chaplains) to arrive. Im 46 now and Im still with this thing. Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.32.229.106 (talk) 11:31, 7 September 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]. You came, you hung out, you drank a bottle of wine, you went crazy like everybody else. The last thing we wanted was heat on the block. In them days, it was no big thing. Baldies wounded.Fordham Baldies/Italian Red Wings Gang War. Then you had the Satans Souls for a while, who were on South 5th and Hoover. Film Details Also Known As Wanderers MPAA Rating R Genre Adaptation Comedy Drama Period Release Date 1979 Distribution Company KINO LORBER/ORION PICTURES Technical Specs Duration 1h 53m Sound Stereo Color Color (Technicolor) Theatrical Aspect Ratio 1.66 : 1 It was something for show. The memories are all roughly the same, or close to it. Each of us bought our own uniforms and equipment and we all chipped in for our bus fees for away games. I was a heroin addict from the age of maybe 13 to 17, but not like a falling-down addict. After a few of them you could do anything. This guy was always strapped. You lived in one building, and the buildings to your left and right were abandoned, because they were gutted out by fires. Thats the bottom line. The Jewish part of East Harlem was mostly west of 2nd Avenue. It was a mixed group, Italians, Blacks and Irish boys who had grown up together. There were a bunch of white gangs fighting each other. Every Friday and Saturday night I would go to factories on Bedford Avenue, Wythe Avenue, and Flushing Avenue. This guy Frankie Boy was my best friend because he was really tough and I wasnt. They said, Youre not supposed to be on our block. There was a shootout and it so happens that she was working at that time, and she got killed. Although the Jewish residents of East Harlem moved to other areas of NYC, they stayed in the neighborhood to sell their wares, either door to door, or via a storefront business. If anyone stepped in, (stepped out of turn) he was accounted for verbally and brutally. Chemistry Faculty. So thats how it happened. "I was a member of that Ducky gang, did some streetsmart growing up with them. of the day,' black leather jackets dungarees and boots. I remember the older guys coming around and passing the word that if any white kid in the neighborhood stole an old ladys pocketbook, they would have their hands and legs broken. Some people were robbing other gangs for their drugs. Or you find them in a car, dead. Can't remember all their name and only some of their last names. You have every type of person in every club. He got stitched up, and we hung out and got high afterward. We were so fuckin broke, we had six jackets and maybe 30 guys. Like I remember coming home and having my sister-in-law crying, and I would walk in the house and make believe I didnt know why. It started as a dance club, and as things happened in the clubarguments and fightsit became a gang. And then when youre like 13 or 14, you start to hang out a little bit and the older guys start to notice you and start to talk to you and before you knew it youd been groomed into what they were. The Viceroys were a Puerto Rican gang from 103rd Street, between Park and Madison Avenues. I remember them strutting their stuff on the boardwalk dressed in black bikini bathing suits with red piping. We had a riot on Fulton Street one time, and thats what we did. Usually it was chains or sticks; knives and zip guns occasionally. After I received this email, I received yet another email, this time from Ernests niece who has some stories to share about Ernest that her father shared with her. Ernests son is now 58 years old and just now found out about his familys history in New York City. Who the hell knows whats in your brain? Montuoro, who was 25, was not in the Baldies but did have a criminal record for assault and robbery in 1947 and possession of a firearm in 1949. You come running through the building with the cops after you and you could run into any door. From the sweaters we went to a shirt, and from the shirt we finally got to patches. A lot of the guys would be with their girlfriends. I got in, it was dark, and then when I put on the light all I saw was coffins, so I ran out. We hung around Aberdeen Park. Indeed, I started this at someone else's suggestion, with the understanding that s/he would pick up from there. Everybody else had to shoot, because we already were. TRIKER1 (talk) 15:27, 4 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply], I read the article twice and I still have no idea what most of it was talking about. We rumbled with their guys, and that started a war between the clubs. In fact, sometimes the girls would rumble with other clubs without the guys knowing. I could make up to $20. We spent a couple nights in jail. At about 4:55 p.m. after asking around where the Baldies hung out, the Red Wings rolled up on Piggys Candy store, double parking in front. You werent even allowed to kick the guy once he was down. Even today, in 2012, the Fordham Baldies still bring memories to many people I have talked to. Then of course the cops picked up on it, and it got to be really tough. Click here to learn more about Ernests life as well as pictures of Ernie before he was killed. Back then you just hung out with the right people. A lot of times, people would come back all beat up and bruised. You stick a car antenna in it and file down the part that you cock backthe hammer. I swear to God. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bronx_gangs_(1950s1960s)&oldid=1101692437, This redirect does not require a rating on the project's, This page was last edited on 1 August 2022, at 09:49. When I stepped off the train, I saw all these abandoned buildings, and every night there were the sirens of the fire trucks, and people being displaced, crying, no place to go. Back then, Id get up in the morning, 7:30 or so, go stand on the corner by the train station, and ask for quarters. Or if he was with his mother, we wouldnt say nothing to him. The story is really about our group of friends, our football team and yes, a rival crowd on the other side of Bronx Park. It was a two-way thing. Rumors often swept Bronx high schools in the 1950s and 1960s that "the Baldies were coming" to confront the student body, at the generally docile Bronx High School of Science and the more macho, all-male DeWitt Clinton High School. DiVincenzos elbow took another bullet, which passed through his arm. He had hair just like mussolini in real life, and I'm the princess of canada although I can't offically back that up with paperwork. Theres a lot of people walking around messed up to this day, and a lot of people dead. If you drank that, it was like forget about it. So after a while, he would make an apartment available to us. Unlike the idiotic movie the wanderers, however, they didn't have any blacks in the gang, they went around to other neighborhoods to see if they could find some to beat up. Some of the cops knew us too. Police break up gang rumble in the making on a Saturday night in I do think a cross-reference to similar Brooklyn movies (and Mean Streets) makes sense, but as a Wiki neophyte and busy guy, I don't have the time to do it. A couple times, wed take somebody down there and leave em, maybe tied up, and he had to get out by himself. Mario was Ernests brother but passed away a couple of days prior to his son emailing me in March 2012. Wed look down on them and theyd look up at us. In the 1950s and 60s the youth gangs in the Bronx, New York, emerged with a particular notoriety. Wasnt too much of a fight. Because then you cant be in your own neighborhood carrying a pistol. Us, the Chaplains, and the Spanish guys all got together and they gave us an ultimatum: Either we made peace or we were gonna start going to jail. Their leader is Terror, a 6'6", 400-pound monster of a man. This was not the end of the Red Wings gang, however. I went over to the South 9th Bikers in early 1980, the same year I went to jail. He lived like that for a long time. The gang was started around 1955 by the older guys. He was invincible. About ten months ago I received an email from the son of Mario Montuoro. I joined around 1960, when I was 13. When I moved to the Bronx, I saw guys with long hair, cut sleeves, kneepads, and motorcycle boots. We called ourselves the Italian Dukes. When I was growing up, stealing old ladies pocketbooks was the big thing. They werent really that strong of a weapon. He left behind a wife and child. If he was alone, he got his ass kicked. And the drugs? If anything, wed protect them. When we were done I carried him up four flights of stairs on my shoulders to his house, stoned out of my head. We did not have a name but the name Duckie Boys did exist. Everyone pleaded not-guilty and a trial proceeded the following year in April 1955. one fistfights and it would be over. You lived in an apartment with four rooms and four people, and it was so close that you really lived in the street because you had to get out of the house. The area between Pleasant and 1st, and blocks between1st and 2nd were predominately Italian. If I had to stick you, I would stick you. Wed be going across the Williamsburg Bridge, shooting at them, them shooting at us. They punctured his lung and he almost died. Then, in a way that only the Internet can make happen, I received an email from another nephew of Ernests who was actually able to find Ernests unborn son at the time (when Ernest was killed he was married with a boy and his wife was 7 months pregnant with another son on the way).