As his fused body became an unbalanced mix, with Future Zamasu's immortality struggling to "repair" his body as a single being, resulting in a splitting image of his fusees. Ok, so to understand how overpowered Infinite Zamasu really was in the manga. Despite this, Hit is still unlikely to conquer Jiren in battle. This version of Infinite Zamasu was based on the anime version. Infinite Zamasu is an immortal multiversal being that was even breaking time and space and reaching into a different timeline from the past. We have no idea how it works, and probably never will. Lucy has that for being a universe. I think his fight with Champa threatening to destroy U6 is a better feat for his range. No one below the Angels can truly take out Merged Zamasu. Initially, when Fused Zamasu's time ran out, Infinite Zamasu began taking on the form of his fusees. #21. Dragon Ball Super Anime: Fused Zamasu Low 2-C Upgrade (I Actually Know What I'm Talking About I Swear), Massive Dragon Ball Super Scaling Revision, Dragon Ball Super Anime: Fused Zamasu and the Rival Danger Scale. Jiren can't beat infinite zamasu, he would have to destroy the universe first to get rid of him, Jiren have infinite 3D power due to shaking the World of Void, he stomps. JavaScript is disabled. Only hax can beat him. ps: if you are like but what about jirens walking through time feat well the thing is just as i said with the infinite feat the dimension might effect results, and its stored up time from hit that is used not the universes time itself meaning its not infinite, and still cant be calculated unless you wanna risk being infinitely off lol :P. Also this is me looking at the anime zamasu mainly because i dont know too much about the manga version to decide. Jiren one shots Merged Zamasu in a similar way that Trunks did. The Tournament of Power reveals that Jiren has his own unique relationships with Gods of Destruction and he could likely become Universe 11's representative if he were so inclined. RELATED: 10 Best Villains From The Dragon Ball Movies, Ranked. And he's like too strong to contain himself to a single timeline fully, so he's also above baseline. These clones can also block Ki sensing), Size Manipulation (Can increase his size), Rage Power, Afterimage Creation, Likely Analytical Prediction and Light Manipulation (Via Solar Flare), Electricity Manipulation (Via Lightning of Absolution), Explosion Manipulation, Possibly has Sound Manipulation, Statistics Amplification, Pressure Point Strikes, and Energy / Ki Absorption, Half of his body adapted to gravity via the Gravity Machine and has Resistance to Extrasensory Perception (Cannot be sensed by beings lesser than a God), Extreme Heat, Extreme Cold, Harsh Temperatures, Cosmic Radiations, Paralysis, Time Stop (Goku Black stated to possess all of Gokus abilities), Attack Potency: Low Multiverse level (At least as strong as Infinite Zamasu, who is simply the disembodied will of himself that spread across the universe after his body was cut down. Fused Zamasu also wouldn't likely fare much better against Jiren either. Jiren can't. In the manga, as a result of Fused Zamasu's Potara Fusion running out, but Future Zamasu and Goku Black being one and the same, as well as Future Zamasu's immortality bleeding into Goku Black, they refuse to defuse, resulting in a monstrosity half Goku Black half Future Zamasu, who is splitting down the middle due to Goku Black and Zamasu refusing to come undone. Being multiple Fused Zamases, Infinite Zamasu is even stronger than any of his predecessors. When he isn't writing, he is often reading all sorts of manga. However, when it comes to fighting someone like Gogeta, Broly shows signs of struggle, especially since much of his rage is an explosive release that he can't control. We have moved to a new external forum hosted at https://vsbattles.com. . How do we know whether he can lift his own weight or not, and we do we assume he can when we gave him the tier? Same threads, same repeated arguments from both sides since how long? This is presumably a side effect of Zamasu's past attempt at switching bodies with Monaka. Unfortunately for Kefla, Jiren is far stronger than Ultra Instinct Goku, who beats Kefla without even being at the top of his game or fully understanding his new strength. In the end it took Zeno to take out Infinite Zamasu. A lot of dangerous Dragon Ball villains have made bids for power, but Frieza is by far the most persistent of the lot. @shenron007: by blowing them up, not an actual hakai, there is no evidence of that. What stands these two apart is that Jiren studies intense meditation and calculated strategies, whereas Broly fights purely through instinct, which has its share of setbacks. Jiren is bloodlusted so he'll try to win via any means, who wins? Infinite zamasu lacks in power to defeat jiren, but jiren has no means at all to deal with him. Goku digs into his pocket to find a Senzu Bean but instead finds the button to call Future Zeno. The Grand Priest is the father of all of Dragon Ball's Angels, but he's also the strongest of his kind. Infinite Zamasu transforms into Super Saiyan Ros, wears Potara & Time Ring, has Time Machine, and creates Clones. > Bumping a thread only 9 minutes after the last answer. Well-Known Member. Dragon Ball sometimes gets out of hand when it comes to their celestial deities and the powers that they possess, but the Grand Priest is a successful example of less being more. XSOULOFCINDERX They/Them. Promotional material doesn't mean anything if it contradicts the story. I guess you can say that he may not be able to lift his own weight, I am neutral on that aspect. It seems he's embraced this new ethereal state. Whis is Universe 7's Angel icon and he's forbidden from joining battles and helping alter the fate of reality simply because his strength is difficult to comprehend. @raziel2014: if you think merged zamasu is stronger than kefla you need to get your power scaling checked. https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1409099#20. Although it is initially blocked by the three Saiyans, they are overpowered at the end of the blast and are knocked down, albeit successfully protecting Future Mai, Bulma, Shin, and Gowasu as well as the Time Machine. Considering Anilaza took more than just SSJB Goku and Vegeta to be defeated, i am guessing he is stronger than Merged Zamasu, and Jiren barely flinched at his sight. Just want to re-check that specific episode and see what Whis actually said about it. Goku Black was already superior if not equal to SSJB vegeta and Zamasu himself is a SSj2 tier fighter, if both of them merge together is much stronger than kefla and take into account that the dude is Semi Immortal. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. We had an entire thread discussing this with the conclusion that he actually did so, I don't think it's even note worthy trying to make repetitions at this point. And he's also "Engulfing the universe" implying he's fitting it inside him and isn't collapsing himself. The main argument is that he gets it via physiology, but he also gets his attack potency (low 2-C) through physiology, meaning that scaling people to his attack potency but not his lifting strength is contradictory and all his stats would scale to his ki, which suppressed Jiren is stated to surpass and the wiki accepts this scaling, so the physiology argument doesn't work. Did you check the thread where it was first accepted? A lot of work was put in to DBS higher tier scaling way back and there is absolutely nothing wrong with it whatsoever. Somewhat kept up with Super Saiyan Blue Vegito), lower with Gigantification (Increased his power at the cost of his speed, becoming no longer able to keep up with Super Saiyan Blue Vegito) | Nigh-Omnipresent, would eventually become Omnipresent (Was becoming one with the universe and its space-time), Striking Strength: Low Multiverse level (At least as strong as Infinite Zamasu), higher with Light of Justice, far higher with Gigantification | Low Multiverse level, Durability: Low Multiverse level (At least as durable as Infinite Zamasu), higher with Light of Justice, far higher with Gigantification (Tanked a Final Kamehameha from Super Saiyan Blue Vegito) | Low Multiverse level, Range: Standard Melee Range; Extended Melee Range with God Split Cut and Aura Slide. 5/28/2021. Either Goku overestimating himself, or underestimating IZ because maybe he didn't fully grasp what IZ had become. Plus his own will/Mind fused with the universe which is an aspect of ki itself. Privacy Policy. For more information, please see our This Infinite Zamasu completely regenerated an attack from Vegeta Not only that, but he made even MORE clones afterwards The point is that, he literally ca Both the Zenos are fascinating figures who act more like infant children than destructive tyrants. Merged Zamasu is gonna win don't forget it took the king of everything to actually get rid of Zamasu. Jiren needs LB to stand a chance,. This upgrade allows him to eviscerate the Heeter Forces Gas, but he also knocks out Ultra Ego Vegeta and Ultra Instinct Goku in a single blow. That version of Zamasu didn't even take on kaio Ken Goku. Who is stronger - the infinite Zamasu that merged with the timeline or Jiren ? The main purpose of this forum is to discuss how to properly index the statistics of characters from a wide variety of different fictional franchises. I am not sure why we would assume his lifting strength like that unless we are saying he can lift himself? However, his true strength is his ability to skip through time. To what extent is Beerus's Hakai's even useful in this occasion? Jiren's been confirmed as beerus tier, and beerus against zamasu was considered spite by most here @frocharocha: True that Jiren's glare has a pretty wide aoe though, and even if he uses a hand blast and Zamasu reforms he can just fire a bigger one. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Low Multiversal with ki blasts, attacks, and Instant Transmission; Low Multiversal with Kai Kai (Fusion Zamasu's version of this move should have similar capabilities to Kibito and Shin's) | Low Multiversal (His influence was starting to bleed over into other timelines), Standard Equipment: Time Ring and Potara Earrings | None notable, Intelligence: Gifted (As he should have the combined intellect of his fusees. One of these beams attacks the group of survivors. Future Zeno looks up to the sky of Zamasu's face and deems him annoying. Jiren fails to hit him before Zamasu becomes 2C and spanks. Yeah Zamasu's power increase goes fast, and I don't think Jiren is too into timeline nuking. Kale= is much weaker than SSJB vegeta and SSJB goku. A feat of great cunning yes but not of power. Forgot if he was referring to the regular one or the Infinite one tho. That would explain the increase in power. He is the author of some of the articles here that you liked, and others that you didn't. From memory Zeno lamented the ugliness of the universe and said it couldn't be allowed to exist or some shit like that. Broly is a Saiyan from Universe 7 who grew up on Planet Vampa after being exiled by King Vegeta long ago. Was it not required for IZamasu to take over the entirety of a specific timeline before trying to break into the next one? @frocharocha: When has Jiren cut anything? Doubt Angels can do anything to him. He was defeated and the Time Rift vanished. Goku, Vegeta and Trunks could not go full power and their only hope was Zenoh. I actually heard something about him "Engulfing the universe" which by definition would mean he is eating the universe. However, Ultra Ego Vegeta represents a powerful evolution that feeds into the Saiyan's aggressive tendencies. As I always had problems with people scaling to IZ or above him, I agree. Jiren Can seal him up, same go for Goku and the angels It's too late once he's infinite. Seems like people just agreed because "he is a spacetime continuum". In this form, Infinite Zamasu's regeneration is so great, he was able to survive being blasted to smithereens and even have said pieces regenerate to form clones of Fused Zamasu. and yes i understand if you say ultra instinct goku beat kefla who is a merged character and tbh idk what to think about that tbh, i honestly think caulifla and kales base is ALOT weaker then gokus base form which would explain it then and they were just be able to challenge goku when not in fusion cause 1 goku wasnt trying and 2 he was worn out from his previous battle with jiren, because for goku to get a 4,000,000,000,000,000 power increase seems kinda rediculous tbh lol unless its just plot induced stupidity, but i get your argument if you think jiren wins i just felt its better to explain my point of view on why zamasu wins instead of something on the line of imo zamasu wins lol, but the first part and the last part in the ps section was serious i dont think the infinite feat or time feat should be used since logically sizes in infinite and numbers in general are infinitely very inconsistent when talking about other dimensions meaning you can only scale off of goku logically. The energy of the universe could be infinite, but he is not using the energy of the universe. Infinite Zamasu (Dragon Ball Super) vs Time Breaker Zamasu (Dragon Ball Heroes) #1 bob74h Setting/Location: Kaioshin Realm universe 10 Victory Conditions: Death of the opponent Motivation:. He was cut down. In fact, Infinite Zamasu does not show any awareness of Future Zeno whatsoever until the instant he is about to be erased from existence by him. You must log in or register to reply here. So my reply to this topic would probably be merged zamasu simply cause he is immortal from the dragon balls but thats my opinion, still jiren can be infinitely stronger or weaker then zamasu or be at the same power but do to consequences of it being inside a different dimension we cant take to many feats in that realm to show who wins or not, meaning all we can do is compare them both to goku and use goku as a reference to show who is more powerful then the other, so lets take gokus max multiplier compared to super saiyen 3 i have ever seen from seth the programmer which i dont really know what to think about and he thinks super saiyen god is a 200,000,000,000 times multiplier compared to ss3 so that makes gokus god form 8e+13 times stronger then base form so if we keep in consideration gokus super saiyen god super saiyen form is just super saiyen god with super saiyen form merged that adds a 50 times multiplier onto that then adding in the the times 20 multiplier from kaioken times 20, and knowing he used the spirit bomb as a power source for his ultra instinct that means the only thing we can do is assume the spirit bomb gave him another x20 multiplier for energy at least so although we dont know his true power of ultra insinct we can only make assumptions so i just gave another times 20 multiplier and that makes ultra instinct 1.6e+18 times stronger then gokus base form at least or bassicly 1,600,000,000,000,000,000 and we are gonna keep it that way to stay accurate as possible and now knowing jiren didnt have to difficulty of a time handeling goku lets be generous and say he was only giving it his 1% all and that would mean jiren is 158,400,000,000,000,000,000 times more powerful then gokus base form and thats being generous, now knowing the rings multiply both users power together that means knowing merged zamasu is pretty much on par with super saiyen god super saiyen kaioken x20 vegito that means with the x20 multiplier from kaioken and x50 multipler from the super saiyen form all stacked on top of gokus god form which is 8e+13 times base form originally that makes it 8e+16 with those stacked on top know since the rings multiply the powers together and knowing goku and vegeta are close to the same power that means 8e+16 times 8e+16 = 6.4e+33 so merged zamasu is at max 6.4e+33 times gokus base form or bassicly 6,400,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times stronger then gokus base form and that means ultimately merged zamasu is 40,404,040,000,000 times stronger then jiren at least and thats being generous the only time it would be off is if the authors made ultra instinct more OP, or bassicly plot induced crap happens but thats the only thing that can change this, cause right know im just using pure logic and scienctific reasoning so you can choose to believe it or not but this is how i will back up my claim (which is better then nothing imo). Jiren is credited as " the mightiest foe in Dragon Ball history " numerous times throughout the airing of the Tournament of Power, and the Wiki currently uses this statement, alongside others, to scale a suppressed Jiren above Infinite Zamasu, making him Low 2-C but not giving him Immeasurable Lifting Strength which has affected the top-tiers of Merged Zamasu and Vegito know that Goku has Ultra Instinct and that Jiren is supposed to be a mortal stronger than a god of destruction. Jiren destroys him. Lord Beerus is Universe 7's God of Destruction and quite possibly the strongest of these 12 apocalyptic figures. Infinite Zamasu appears in a flashback just after Universe 9 got erased and Goku remembered having witnessed the technique by Future Zeno. Goku and Beerus fist bump and destroy the universe with Zamasu as Goku IT's them to safety. But I believe it's because he's still really huge on a 4-D scale, with limited 5-D existence. As such, there are countless individuals in Dragon Ball who slowly get bested by Jiren in combat. Not sure about that one. Fought and damaged Super Saiyan Blue Vegito[3]), far higher with Gigantification (Became even stronger, albeit at the cost of speed[3]), can possibly ignore conventional durability with his Sickle of Sorrow | Low Multiverse level (As stated by both Gowasu and Beerus, Zamasu, in this state, was becoming one with the universe and overriding its law and order. 1) Vs. Infinite Zamasu In Dragon Ball Super's "Future" Trunks Saga, Goku and friends find themselves fighting two different versions of the Kai in training, Zamasu. Rei is an avid fan of anime and manga. 2. Merged Zamasu as of his first appearance, except he starts at full power instead of waiting until his face has been kicked in. if he were to be a universe, he would be expanding by default, faster than his gravity causes him to collapse. Dragon Ball Super hasn't been easy for Gohan fans, but the newest feature film, Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero, finally gives Gohan the showcase that he deserves. He is as arrogant as his previous incarnation, declaring himself to be above his fellow gods. As one of Dragon Ball's strongest characters, Jiren is capable of besting a God of Destruction, which makes a strong case for why he's one of the strongest mortals to ever grace the multiverse. Future Zamasu appears behind Goku and transforms himself as well and both Future Zamasu and Goku Black individually transform back into Fused Zamasu. It's about looking cool. Friezas powerful Golden transformation can go toe-to-toe with Super Saiyan Blue power, but Dragon Ball Supers manga has introduced an even more intimidating echelon of strength. In Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero, Dr. Hedo releases Gamma 1 and 2, an Android duo that puts every past model to shame. However, power levels are a fickle thing in Dragon Ball and there are still several characters who could find ways to win in a potential skirmish. Updated December 26, 2022 by Daniel Kurland: There is no shortage of powerful juggernauts in Dragon Ball that could take out most of a solar system if they were so inclined. After his Grotesque form is cut in half, Goku Black and Future Zamasu briefly resurface before turning into a pair of Fused Zamasu. The level determines the final score, of the Super Power, being used in the calculation. I don't think so, he was just feeling his presence (energy). Ultra Instinct may even be an Angel's natural state, which should indicate how superior Whis is to Jiren, who struggles to defeat Goku's subpar version of this fluid state. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. No knowledge otherwise. Goku underestimates Zeno and Trunks' world suffers as a result. It would be better if it is replaced with unknown. Whis warns Goku of this early in the arc, that if Zeno gets pissed there's a good chance he'll just nuke everything. To put that into perspective, Broly was able to fight and overwhelm two Super Saiyan Blue-level warriors with a mere Super Saiyan transformation. Just like Whis, Vados is one of Dragon Ball Super's Angel attendants. @phillip33: vegito blue was stomping zamasu though. Tournament of Power saga: (except for Zeno, gods and angels) How about an "Inapplicable" rating? Making this scaling wonky, We agree he merged and took out jiren who is suppose to be stronger, If we agree zamasu merged with the universes which is never stated btw. Infinite Zamasu[2] (, Mugen Zamasu) is the final incarnation of Zamasu and antagonist of the "Future" Trunks Saga. Declaring that the world needs to be erased, Future Zeno charges his energy and releases a radiant light, which erases the screaming Zamasu along with the entirety of the future timeline,[3] finally ending his reign of terror as well as preventing his plans from reaching its maximum potential and stopping his attempt to invade the present timeline. He didn't think he could take him. However, in Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2, he still retains his sanity and is able to speak with Chronoa, the Supreme Kai of Time. That likely kills Moro as well. In the anime, this being is the surviving will of Fused Zamasu left over from his destruction because of Future Zamasu 's immortality. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. His other hobbies include exploring the beauty of nature when he can. Not moving around. We agree he merged and took out jiren who is suppose to be stronger. Gohan didnt stand a chance against Jiren in the Tournament of Power, but Gohan Beast is another story. And moving around against which force? Manage all your favorite fandoms in one place! In addition, Gowasu implies that Fused Zamasu deliberately cast aside his divine body and gained his Infinite form specifically to ensure he can propagate his insane view of order and justice by merging with the fabric of existence. You are using an out of date browser. Speed, strength, and unique techniques are useless against someone who can wipe out a universe in a snap. 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