My last boat, a BHM Downeast had a John Deere and it was great. by In Memory Walter K Sep 22nd, '08, 19:32, Post 36 Chriscraft | Electrical Repower Projects "ORCA" H&H Downeast Lobster Boat Build; Farallon 27 Repower "Sea Harvester" Radon Boat Extension; . is the boat still available? The 25 footer with the 370 cruises 20-22 knots @ 2400 rpms. Rod Holders Started less than 1 minute ago This video shows a. by Bill Mckinnon Sep 22nd, '08, 17:29, Post Bertram 1973 B28 FBC/2007 4LHA STP's - "Phantom Duck" - Hull "BER 00794 1172". Bait Wells Even a short video can reflect a most extensive and meticulous re-powering project! Do you have any interior pictures?. I raise and lower the anchor from the bridge. My reason for preferring the 330 HP motor is you simply dont need the added HP provided by the 370 (20 HP per side), and I assume you will be paying more for it. Often times several power options are examined prior to beginning the job. Burgee and Logos Here's a heap of fit out, including fibreglass work, painting and what we thought was a massive disaster! Seaboard Marine delivers Guaranteed Better Than Factory Performance, Parts, Design, and Engineering for Cummins and other Marine Diesel applications. There's plenty of Bertram and 25 Carribbean fly bridges arouns Australia. All MerCruiser Remanufactured engines come with a 1-year factory backed limited warranty. If you swing a larger diameter wheel go with a heavier(larger diameter) shaft. The fire was directly under a fabricated aluminum 80+ gallon GAS tank. Plus it sounds like your going to keep your 31 for a long time. I have a pair of running takeout B270 Cummins with MG 502's gears for sale. Check this table out. Thanks Bill. If youre still working then that makes good sense (or cents)- go make a buck doing what you do best and let the pros do their thing this way all moves fwd as it should. my 2 cents. Note down under our fuel is much more expensive (currently $1.60 per litre) hence we tend to run less hp. with 3208 cats and broke the 1 3/8 shaft. I would think aluminum would be much better. Im looking for about 50 kts. Quick links. Why the 370s rather than the 330s? PS where are you located? 46 Matthews http://baltimore.craigslist.org/bod/5492370026.html, http://bertram31.com/newbb/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12271. I am very excited to see that the project has started, its going to be a lot of fun and especially when it is done and we are fishing. 31 Albamar 132. I would think the 330s would be a better choice, especially hear in SoCal. Bill. Just a small remote about the size of a key fob for a car. Just an idea to think about. The math on that requires minimum 1.5" shafts. yanmar 8LV-350 is a good motor for it`s original use a toyota land cruiser and thats were it ends. Since before Cummins Engine Company marinized their 6B 5.9 engine in the 1970s Mako Marina was a Cummins distributor and installing Cummins Engines. by Bill Mckinnon Sep 22nd, '08, 17:45, Post I doubt the PO ever even knew it happened! NEVER an issue dropping or hauling anchor solo. For convenience I also paint orange stripes on my rode every 30 feet. Please contact Morgan Bertram at 954 614 2087. I use Blackstone Labs frequently and always have kits on hand, so will have both engines reviewed in short order if they have not been done lately. In addition to her superb sea . Repowers . 31 Parts Did she make 40Ks with those 800++ Yanmar ponies? 30 Trawler 48 Viking 1969 31 Bertram FBC "East Wind" hull #315939, i would go with the mercruiser 383s 370HP carbureted and more torque than the 454 and less weight than the 454 a boat that I work on (not a Bertram)a searay he took out a big block and did a 383 and he loves it he gained fuel mileage less weight and he absolutely loves the engine and the boat performs better than it did. Works really well. This t. Ill try to get more photos posted on a regular basis as time permits. Not any real damage. What a great project and choice of engines ! My goal was to have a lobster boat that could cruise effortlessly @ 22-23 knots without beating on the engine. General Discussion. After its restoration it has real weight with half-filled deposit of 7.5 tones. I have the 315 Yanmars, 1.5"shafts, 20x23 4 blade nibral props, 2:1 gear I used to cruise at 26 to 28 Kts. 34 Fitz when it come to personal opinion i have one in my boat as generator (MASE) my corp has four small 3000 watt portable generators but they are all L-9 motors same as john deere small tractors absolutely nothing to do with using a Toyota land cruiser engine marinize in a 31 Bertram.they have abandon there stp 315 hp completely as a matter of fact you could hold a complete cylinder head as a ransom actually worth as much as the rest of the entire motor due to customers with a engine that went down due to a drop valve will pay big bucks to get there boat back in water. Correct me if I'm wrong,definitely interested. It is in fair condition with a sound hull making it my ideal choice for a project boat. Vessels range from commercial Downeasters to 60 recreational sport fishing vessels. Dirt simple, cheap parts, and they ran and ran. Bertram Model: Moppie 31 Type: Sport Fisherman Hull Material: Fiberglass Use: Salt Water Engine Type: Twin Inboard Engine Make: Cummins Primary Fuel Type: Diesel For Sale By: Private Seller Fuel Capacity: Over 200 Gallons Hull ID Number: BERG1853M80H31580 Length: 31.0 feet Beam: 9.5 feet Raiting: Cancel rating Give Bertram Moppie 31 1/5 Ill offer this. by Bruce Dec 31st, '15, 13:00, Post Noelle Mae - 28 ft. Bertram and the Yanmar 4LHA 240 - One Sweet Combo. We made 41-42K in some nice weather, but realistically, shes only a solid 30K cruiser when you can hold on. The meeting place for all Classic Bertram Owners and Fans, Moderators: CaptPatrick, mike ohlstein, Bruce, Post I would recommend bringing it all the way back. by ranjr13 Dec 29th, '15, 11:12, Post It was acquired in Nautic Club Ibiza (Spain) in quite a bad shape with no maintenance. To accommodate all of the tackle necessary for canyon trips and trolling, the Priceless has 12 rod holders on gunwales and on transom, plus two additional rows of six rocket launchers on marlin tower. This way you know when the anchor is about to the boat and you dont crash it into the pulpit. I purchased a Bertram 31 FBC mid last year following multiple years of looking at various fishing boats. My current B31--Crows Nest--has 8.2 Detroit Diesels. Bill, What windlass remote setup do you have or use? Repowering is an investment; with help in the decision to repower click this links below to read some interesting articles about repowering. One piece fore peak or deck 1 form core with about 2.5 of crown. After 4 years and a half restauration (2013-2018) we are already enjoying its fantastic performance and excellent output in the Mediterranean Sea. Weve been serving local Ventura County, California since 1980 as a custom boat builder, repower specialist, designer, and supplier of equipment to builders, commercial fishermen, and recreational users. I purchased the boat with those intentions after months of due diligence. Thanks for all the input, guys. With regards to the 3.0's being underpowered, the boat came from bertram with 120 hp mercruisers and it appears they preformed quite well. 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Bertram Odyssey, Marine Age the REAL age of a Marine Diesel Engine, Propellers Move Boats, Engines Just Turn Them, Everything you Need to Know About Marine Exhaust Systems, Continuous Duty A Different Perspective. by bob lico Sep 22nd, '08, 22:45, Post Walter. I paid 30g for a Used set of 270s with about 150 hours on them, (engines, gears, struts and props) there are good deals if you take your time looking. Being a fire captain in an area with a large harbor I have been on 6 boat Fires (in the water) in 19 years and many more in dry dock. 38 Holand First consideration is entirely focused on Structural, Mechanical and Electrical. 46 Bertram in standard and oppositerotation versions making it an ideal repower option for many boat owners. They're supposed to be relatively fuel efficient, and there's a guy somewhere around here that I've heard put the 6.2s in his B31 and really likes them. There are plenty of old diesel engines in service today. 42 Provincial I use controls on the bridge and a remote when I want to operate from the bow. 1964 Bertram 31 Sportfisher. Im 54, so Im a little old-school, he stated in a press release. Again for railing system, Aluminum at greater than 1 inch diameter? 25 Buddy Davis. The remote is a Lewmar device. by fonsim May 17th, '16, 14:01, Post by In Memory Walter K Sep 26th, '08, 12:07, Post I had heard a number of stories about failed rebuilt long blocks from the major rebuilders. Many products featured on this site were editorially chosen. 44 Henriques A Bonnier LLC Company. Very pleased with progress of the project! I've got 454s in my 31 and I replaced one of the motors last year total cost was around $6000, I will likely replace the other motor in a few years. Pulpit by bob lico Dec 29th, '15, 08:57, Post The result is efficient performance. Cockpit Deck Soles Boxes At 2200 rpms she burns about 26 gallons per hour, and holding almost 500 gallons of fuel, has a range of around 450 miles. But a 32K cruise was easy, but always weather dependent. MOBY DICK is a leisure boat Bertram 31 fly, made in 1962 and acquired in 2013 to be restored. Asymmetrical Stringers & Transmission Mountings. 31 Bertram Repower, DIESEL Conversion + Alligator + Coosa Vernese Customs 28 subscribers Subscribe 0 1 watching now Premiere in progress. MOBY DICK is a leisure boat Bertram 31 fly, made in 1962 and acquired in 2013 to be restored. Thanks for bringing this to the forum. An important and exciting part of what we do is evaluate your current engines and vessel performance to provide you with conservative future vessel speed and fuel savings. by ranjr13 Dec 28th, '15, 11:34, Post I had a Lewmar windlass on my previous 31 Blackfin. A lot has happened to make changes in Yanmar and Cummins replacement engines over the past year or so. 4 1/2 years to build, Slashed Sept 16, 2016. 36 Uniflite Looking forward to your thoughts and advice as we progress. Thus if they do go a season or two, I'd be ahead of the game. 46 Silverton It is a free fall setup which I personally dont like. by Tony Meola Jun 1st, '16, 22:56, Post 200 rpms available if you want or need them. My intention would be to use RTO's with gears and would either be Cummin B 250hp (or more) OR Yanmar 6LPA 315's. (unless I got my hands on a pair of yanmar 240's). Bill Fuller wrote:..Also, I always found the foot operated windlass switch on the bow a pain. The re sale on a diesel is way greater. 34 Morgan You won't make a mistake with either engine, but you can make a mistake with an unknowledgeable installer who's dying to get the job. I have seen several stainless supports like this crack after a few years of enduring the stressing of ocean fishing. Plastic Rub Rails Did you consider the QSB series before making your decision? And many, probably most, have been modified, repowered, and renovated. They didn't know how lucky they were. by JohnCranston Sep 22nd, '08, 22:17, Post First off, great site - newcomer to this forum, but not Bertrams. The only place you will gain any thing with the 370s is above 2800 RPM. Our business plans have changed and lack of time forces sell. Good question. She boasts full electronic instrumentation at helm and on tower. Not that it really matters, I guess. Also, do you plan to have the rails like this or bring them all the way back to the back of the fly bridge? Ive always gone with foot switches and if properly placed I think they work very well but Im always open to options that do not include drilling more holes in the boat. WOW! 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Weve been serving local Ventura County, California since 1980 as a custom boat builder, repower specialist, designer, and supplier of equipment to builders, commercial fishermen, and recreational users. Stainless Steel Products She currently has Perkins T6.354's rated at 185hp @ 2800 rpm. These sterndrives are fitted with new Mercruiser Alpha 4 aluminium 4 blade propellers. I was able to stop and visit the Seaboard crew on a recent visit to Oxnard at the end of July and got these pictures of my boat. one of five need new cylinder head ,Atlantic city has 6, Beval engine builders have four.and Mack Boring the east coast distributors said "Goodnight Dick" no not personal opinion. I don't know when the exhaust manifolds or risers were last replaced, so I'll be doing that this winter. I'd be more choosey about your installer as right now he certainly has a credibility gap with me. Sunstar Restoration Project - The Rebirth of a Star. Sometimes familiarity can be equated to ease. More than three decades later, it is a collectible classic, sought-after, even coveted. The 370 versus the 330 in a 31 Bertram may be overkill for power but it sure is nice to have the extra They were older carb'd 454s. 31 Bertram An iconic 31 Bertram with a recent refit and repower. Everyone, everywhere in our world knows the 31 Bertram. Participant Vessel Name: Patriot Engines: QSB 5.9 Location: Oxnard Country: United States I purchased a Bertram 31 FBC mid last year following multiple years of looking at various fishing boats. I went to 1 3/4' shafts after that . Hope this helps Like Dug said it was a service issue. Decision was made to totally gut the area due to a lot more rot than first pass review. If Im in a hurry and the water is calm Ill cruise @ 2800-3000 rpm running 27-28 knots. Yard is saying do not have to change shaft or stuts and they have done several 31's already, Cummin would require the larger shafts and Struts, plus increased air flow, Any comments would be great and am sure will be needing more advice as we move forward, Soory guys the cummins are the 330 recons and the yanmar are the 315 6 lpy I think.